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Thanks to all. Very helpful and supportive. A couple of stiff gins and a night's sleep and I am feeling a bit better, although a little sore from being thrown around the yacht. It is a 10 metre racing yacht set up for training and I guess to be fair on the instructor he did heave to but took a fair while to do so in the strong winds. Will think of trying another school but may have to go north to Auckland for that. But right now I'll stick to the after sailing G&T until the bruises heal. Funny enough, we had a course test and one of the questions was "what  do you need to know before deciding to go out in 30 knot winds" and one of the things is the confidence of the crew... of course today the sea is lovely and calm with a steady gentle breeze, although gales are back tonight. I wanted to be able to sail in the weekends for fun, not to be a round the world sailor battling the Southern Ocean.
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Moet - there are no excuses for not heaving to immediately....you check for immediate hazards and just throw the tiller/wheel.  If the boat is on its ear that's fine - you would have practically rolled back on board!
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Interesting to know, Sargesail. Well at the end I was quite free and frank with my course appraisal form and today the school sent me an email saying they were sorry to hear it and offered me 2 hours one on one instruction and 3 hours of just sailing. I'm in two minds but I think I will accept as long as I can choose the days and conditions. One comment in the email was that we were sailing " within our normal operating parameters". Hmmm
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But then again maybe I will wait for fair weather and another school
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sargesail Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 May 13 at 11:03pm
I don't want to alarm you - but if your instructor took a while to heave too with you in the water on the lee side in F6-7+ conditions....then don't go sailing with the company again.  Simple.
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Thanks for the advice. We were actually in F 9 winds gusting to F10. There are other clubs and other instructors. I think I'll take your advice.
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I always feel I should be fair and in this case it does occur to me that while it felt like ages for me inthe water being held on to by another trainee on the yacht (an army chap so good at rescues!) my sense of time may of course have been distorted.

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Yes I'm allowing for a bit of that - but in my view (and experience) if you have someone in the water on the end of a harness then you simply look - are there any immediate hazards to windward.  If not you tack leaving the jib where it is and letting the mainsheet go during the manoeuvere.  If the MOB is not harnessed but held then you have a different problem - if the boat comes upright you will probably lose contact.  But you do have to slow the boat - otherwise, lifejacket or not, there is a good chance they will drown in the wash.  So let both sails go and get the jib aback pretty much immediately.

Now if it were F9-10 and you weren't harnessed then don't go with these people again!

It isn't worth the saving, especially as by your experience so far you are sending good personal time after bad as well as money!
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Thanks for that. No I wasn't harnessed and yes the water from the wash was being forced into my mouth.  Not nice. I was surprisingly calm.
 
I just got another emailed letter from the instructor and he has become defensive in reponse to my being surprised that after we returned another instructor went out in the same winds and it got worse. It is really not worth bothering with them any more 
 
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Yeah. Please stick with sailing, but go nowhere near a company with such dangerous practices again!
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