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Originally posted by Skelpagb


Hi

My wife and I would like to take up dinghy or day boat sailing. Our aim is to potter round some inland lakes with a picnic (we don't want to race)

Unfortunately my wife had a serious accident some years ago and has a serious and chronic back condition together with a badly damaged knee and is generally limited to walking about 50 meters using a stick

Our key criteria for picking a boat are

Easy to rig, launch and recover by one novice (while wife offers helpful comments from the shore)
Light enough to be towed by a 1.6 Astra
Low maintenance
Stable ( I appreciate that any small boat can be a handful in gusty weather but I want something that won't bite in good weather)
Boom height high enough to prevent too much stooping for my wife while out sailing
Large enough to allow us to keep a picnic on board 

We've looked at a number of boats but have questions about each and would welcome your thoughts....wanderers (bit small?), wayfarer (too heavy to launch solo?), skipper 17 ( too heavy to launch solo, too heavy to tow with the Astra?)

Target price £5000 and max £10,000

Thanks



I think that depends on your size of 'inland lake' and your level of 'benign weather', also what can be easily launched by one person at one place can be a challenge at another. Also, how grand a picnic you have in mind :-)

Also are we talking inland lake with total safety boat cover, or being entirely self reliant? Or somewhere in between?

FWIW, when I was about 7 we used to do all that with an Enterprise, towed behind a Mini 850 and also took it on the sea and caught mackeral. Were the nice days nicer then? It's quite possible to sail most sensible dinghies in F3 or less, with the second person not doing much moving around.
Any of the trad classes like Gp14 or Wanderer might be OK, but a heavier boat such as a Drascombe or Stratos might be OK in a bit more wind. I  would advise trying something out with an able person crewing to see what suits you. Ask sellers to take you out, or chat to sailing schools and ask for a taster. It's very hard to say definitively 'x will be fine for you' unless we understand exactly what you want. I suspect I'd rather see you spend on a weekend or two of courses to try different boats than see you relieved of your cash at the boat show.

Having re-read what I've written, it is not meant to sound condescending or knock other people's suggestions,
Good Luck with your quest..

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Skelpagb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 13 at 11:42am
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Thanks for comments none of which sound in the least condescending. I think your advice is sound and thank you for it!

I've done a couple of weekends training and seem to have managed to enthuse my wife to the point at which she'd also like to try: to some extent the choice of boat is conceptual at this stage but I didn't want to become properly involved if there was no chance of finding an appropriate boat. 

Thanks to the forum we now have lots of food for thought over the winter!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote robinft Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Nov 13 at 10:04am
I think a Weta  could tick all the boxes, albeit it's a left field suggestion.
Very stable, no boom, quick when you want it to be, light and simple to rig. Narrow cockpit that your wife can stay in or move out of as she becomes more confident.

http://www.wetamarine.co.uk/
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Would it be worth examining the different classes used for disabled sailors? The important part is that these boats can accommodate people who can't leap from side to side. Some do this with keels, but not all.

The Access has a 2 seater model and is small (thus light to heave around). Or you can look at multihulls (probably not too heavy either): Challenger, Windrider.

Will there be any issue with your wife climbing back into the boat after a capsize?
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May I suggest that you contact the dinghy cruising association. Their website has a great deal of information regarding suitable boats.
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the access dinghy needs to be launched from a jetty because of the retractable keel.  The Challenget is a nightmare to pack up and tow - you have to completely take the sponsons off.  Plus strictly speaking it's a single seat.  The Weta is a good idea, plus earlier I suggested the Hobie trimaran.  Both of these are used by sailability centres.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Skelpagb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Nov 13 at 5:01pm
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I don't think that climbing back in would be too easily achieved - possible but not desirable (especially if you consider what she'd do to me if I'd caused the capsize - v. Messy)

Gordon - I will certainly take your advice re the cruising assoc. Thanks

Certainly the Weta looks worth a bit more investigation and again thanks to everyone for the advice
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that is right. everything depends on will your wife also use the boat and where are you going both to sail?
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