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Andyv1968 
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Joined: 12 Jul 17 Location: Cleobury Mortim Online Status: Offline Posts: 3 |
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 Posted: 17 Jul 17 at 6:20pm |
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The laser 2ooo looks interesting, any thoughts on the Vago
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sawman
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Joined: 04 May 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 205 |
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Posted: 17 Jul 17 at 7:49pm |
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this is the role that the Miracle was made for. It's a proper little boat, that will accommodate you both well, and with the spinnaker, theres a skill to grow into. the fact that the crew sits in it os also reassuring for little uns
Over and above that its light, and this is something you need to consider when ashore, because your 9 year old will be off looking for crisps, pop or a warm shower when you need to drag it up the slipway. Really, go no further than a Miracle for this job |
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GarethT
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Joined: 21 Apr 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 714 |
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Posted: 18 Jul 17 at 7:53am |
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Did the Miracle ever get a re-launch/re-brand like a number of other older classes have.
Always struck me as a great little boat, but the only ones I ever saw in the flesh were kit builds. |
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MattK
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Joined: 02 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 221 |
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Posted: 18 Jul 17 at 9:19am |
Yes, there are GRP ones, pretty ideal little machines for the right circumstance, which for us was my grandfather wanting something relatively light and easy to sail in a small bit of water
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iGRF
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Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6496 |
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Posted: 18 Jul 17 at 10:04am |
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Miracles are alive and well thank you very much, Banditing all over our lake and occasionally on the sea, fully agree they are good at doing the parent child thing opening up endless opportunity for child abuse and prolonging the museum piece sailing association that the majority of this sport is.
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sawman
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Posted: 18 Jul 17 at 6:52pm |
Never re-branded, but they are quite snazzy these days - Laminate sails are the latest. My last one was a proper looker, with fireballesque holes in the foredeck for the spinny bags |
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jim
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Posted: 13 Sep 17 at 10:17pm |
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I regularly sail a Hartley wayfarer with a lead centreboard which makes it very stable and almost uncapsizable...it is a great boat especially if you're beginning and even gas an Assymetric for downwind fun! It's the sort of boat that we will probably keep for a long time
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Sam.Spoons
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Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3393 |
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Posted: 14 Sep 17 at 10:06am |
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I'm not sure I'd want to haul a Wayfarer up the slip with only a 9 year old to help.........
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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
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Time Lord
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Joined: 03 Dec 13 Location: Warwickshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 301 |
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Posted: 14 Sep 17 at 6:40pm |
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Both 2000 and Vago are heavy for their size/sail area. When alongside one inthe Merlin and you get a gust, they are quickly left behind. One new Vago atthe club weighed in at some 20kgs over Laser claimed hull weight. Newer 2ks may be more down to weight no that Laser don't build them but still heavy.
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Merlin Rocket 3609
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snowleopard
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Joined: 02 Oct 17 Location: Cornwall Online Status: Offline Posts: 66 |
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Posted: 12 Feb 18 at 3:42pm |
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My first thought is that a young lad will want something fairly exciting. Plodding around in a wayfarer will have him wanting to leave Dad behind and join the cool kids on the flying machines.
I taught my daughters on an International 14; it suited our sailing at the time - on the Thames - but would have been a bit much elsewhere. What did keep their interest was being in one of the fastest boats in the fleet.
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One hull good, two hulls better.
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