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Ribbons and Pigs comes to mind.  

People don't buy solos because they are fast modern and "sexy"; they buy them because they are either too old to sail anything else or fancy winning a cup in a big fleet by beating lots of old folks.
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The only reason I can see for the hole in the transom is the historical reason of having a transom traveller. That's obsolete now, and trying to thread the tiller extension through the hole is a pain...
The Solo rudder (lifting) can be of wood or aluminium, but the weight is the same, so I guess that a fixed rudder (if ever allowed), would only lose any slop - maybe not faster than a lifting one.

Loose footed main would be a change - though the plan B sail is allowed as loose footed, so there's a precedent..

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NickA,
What a negative post, not got many friends driving Solos then ?
There are a couple at my club, one beautiful wooden one and a couple of grp.


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Originally posted by NickA

Ribbons and Pigs comes to mind.  

People don't buy solos because they are fast modern and "sexy"; they buy them because they are either too old to sail anything else or fancy winning a cup in a big fleet by beating lots of old folks.

I think you'll find this post fairly miss informed looked the average age of the top 10 of this years nationals
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Originally posted by zeon

I am with Colprice on this one . No dinghy class can stand still, even the Streakers have voted for tracked centre main and carbon booms recently. Small changes would make the boat look more modern. Get rid of the coffee table on the centre board case for one and carbon boom would be a good start. I would even be in favour of a small weight reduction so you could remove the correctors that all frp boats have. On the other hand I would be against carbon masts for a number of reasons.

How modern can a boat designed in the 1950s look, unless it gets a new hull, complete new rig, new deck, new foils and just keeps the same mainsheet block?


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Post Options Post Options   Quote CT249 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Sep 19 at 10:13pm
Originally posted by NickA

Ribbons and Pigs comes to mind.  

People don't buy solos because they are fast modern and "sexy"; they buy them because they are either too old to sail anything else or fancy winning a cup in a big fleet by beating lots of old folks.

Whereas you buy Javs because you fancy winning a cup in a small fleet by beating a few old folks?  :-)
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Solos have had fixed rudders for years. I cant imagine how hard it is to actually put one on through the hole in the transom though!

I dont see the coffee table mod or the transom mod as being game changing and they should really just do it IMO.

Carbon boom - I cant see a good reason not to do this these days, but keep the tracked foot for the foreseeable future.

Carbon mast. Not yet.

Weight reduction. No. don't bother.
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My first thought on weight reduction is "why bother", but OTOH wood boats are uncompetitive anyway, so if the sandwich boats are consistently and easily coming out underweight, does it really add any value for everyone to be buying corrector weights? All has to be paid for...
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I am just club sailing my wooden Miles so you could argue I dont count, but I am able to beat frp boats in all but marginal planing. No correctors so I cant match any weight reduction.

Is the focus on increasing new boat sales going to remove the hundreds of club boats from serious racing ?. Merlins are not selling at high levels but then the racing numbers at events are really high.

Carbon boom will result in pressure from the circuit sailors and a move to loose footed within two years.Good for sailmakers!

What happens to late old rules boats? The shopping list to convert to new rules is approaching 2000 ( mast,boom and rudder.)

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Invest the 2000 in training, this will get you nearer top of table than accessories.
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