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    Posted: 18 Feb 20 at 1:19pm
Neither of my clubs have Defib units onsite. I'm wondering how many clubs do actually have these at all?

Not just from a sailing point of view where, to be honest, crucial timings are eaten into simply through the process of recovering the patient, but in in terms of other people in & around the premises.

We have two very active Model Boat / Model Yacht clubs operating from our shores as well as regular Scouts / Guide groups etc.

If you do have one - and I'm keen to promote the purchase of such a device at at least one of my clubs - then are there any particular models etc to look for?

What Pros & Cons have been encountered? 

We aren't publically accessible so can't apply for local community grants so are looking to purchase our own.

Just thought there may be some experience in here somewhere.

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We have 2 Defibs at our (very small) club. One permanently mounted outside on the wall accessible to the public, we also have a portable one that can go out on safety/committee boat (not that I fancy using one on a wet casualty but better to have it available)

We funded them via Tesco Communities thing (the wee blue chip things at the tills)

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We have had one inside the clubhouse for about a year. 

Hopefully The Moo is around, as he can fill in more of the details. 
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Originally posted by zeon

We have had one inside the clubhouse for about a year.
Hopefully The Moo is around, as he can fill in more of the details.


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Yes we do have a small portable one in the foyer of our Clubhouse. We are in a locked compound with no public access. There should be no requirement for its use other than when we are present.

We purchased it online a few years ago for less than 1000 if I recall. We did a bit of fundraising within the Club and financed the rest from subscription income.

I do not recall what make it is. I think it was recommended by one of the first aid organisations.It is small, I think the battery life is 5 years and I believe is simple to operate with voice instructions.

Thankfully not had cause to use it yet but it is ready to go. When committee members refresh their first aid training (organised by the Club tailored to our specific needs), we ask the trainer to include a module on defibrillator use and last time she brought along some training machines for us to practice with.

With our ageing club demographic and fairly remote location we thought it was the right way to go.

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They put one in the moment I took over as Commodore, not sure why..
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Originally posted by fleaberto

Neither of my clubs have Defib units onsite. I'm wondering how many clubs do actually have these at all?
Not just from a sailing point of view where, to be honest, crucial timings are eaten into simply through the process of recovering the patient, but in in terms of other people in & around the premises.
We have two very active Model Boat / Model Yacht clubs operating from our shores as well as regular Scouts / Guide groups etc.
If you do have one - and I'm keen to promote the purchase of such a device at at least one of my clubs - then are there any particular models etc to look for?
What Pros & Cons have been encountered?
We aren't publically accessible so can't apply for local community grants so are looking to purchase our own.
Just thought there may be some experience in here somewhere.
Cheers


We have one in the entrance at Blithfield. Use of it is included in our annual first aid courses. Message me if you would like to come over and have a look and talk to the people that bought it and set it up. As an occasional RC sailor at yours, hope I never need it but would be good to know it's there.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Gordon 1430 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Feb 20 at 6:50pm
We have one at Lee on Solent SC one of our former commodore's was a first responder and arranged it.
Might be worth checking if your local volunteers can help.
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The one problem I see with the external units is that one needs a mobile phone to call for the unlock code...
How many of us have a mobile with them while around the sailing area? That is ready to sail or recover dinghies?

I also wonder how useful they are for a casualty at the far end of the lake. Given that the rescue team need to reach the casualty, recover to safety boat, then reach the clubhouse - even at full power it will take several minutes for the process.
Obviously, for members not sailing it's potentially useful.

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Easy for us as the club ( where its stored inside ) as when people are there the club is open.

I was most surprised during my course of the huge increase in recovery compared to CPR.

And whilst the RIB is a pain to get out and get on the water, the speed of getting a casualty back compared to an easy to access onboard boat makes it totally the right choice.

And I hope that neither is used together, ever. But good that they are ready not to be used!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote fleaberto Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 20 at 12:13pm
Originally posted by ColPrice2002

The one problem I see with the external units is that one needs a mobile phone to call for the unlock code...
How many of us have a mobile with them while around the sailing area? That is ready to sail or recover dinghies?

I also wonder how useful they are for a casualty at the far end of the lake. Given that the rescue team need to reach the casualty, recover to safety boat, then reach the clubhouse - even at full power it will take several minutes for the process.
Obviously, for members not sailing it's potentially useful.

Colin

Yeah, that's the problem that I do talk about when we discuss this issue - Timings.
I've done defib training at our local village as we have one for the community and it was striking how little time you have for the machines to be useful in helping. You don't need to be overly remote for time to become a real issue.
However, with others onsite such as radio sailors (Who, without being too general) are on the more elderly side as well as a lot of grandparents keeping an eye on the kids when Mum & dad are sailing we're thinking that it may be a worthwhile investment.

We wouldn't need the whole phone-code thing as we're not publically accessible and wouldn't be a 'community' asset.
A local Search & Rescue group do train on our water though so they'll be a good source of help too.

Interesting to see that clubs do indeed invest though so something to look more into I think.

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