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    Posted: 05 Feb 21 at 4:26pm
Bit late in the day but check out.

Sailevent https://www.sailevent.net/
Esignon https://sites.google.com/view/dsrc/sign-on-demo?authuser=0

Both Web based so works on all platforms.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote RTFM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Apr 20 at 9:40am
Thank you very much for the positive reply. The simple webform interface is the way to go..
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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Apr 20 at 6:40am
monday.com offers a simple web form interface onto a 21st century websheet.  It would take me 2 minutes to 'code' it using their non-coding required platform.


you simply need to create a master data table and then you can create a form view which you can either 'share' directly or embed in a website page.


Fields needed:

Name / Class / Sail Number / Number of Crew / Crew Name 2 / Crew Name 3 / ... / Membership Number?


then a Status field: 'sign on' or 'sign off'



Each time someone fills in the webform it adds a new 'pulse' - or entry to table.


The time and date are auto-recorded - you now have potentially live data on who is on and who is back off the water, using sortable columns and filtered by date - easy to see and use.


The system is the easy bit - members adherence to it is another matter entirely.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote davidyacht Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Apr 20 at 6:38pm
We run a largish Regatta with boats coming to the start line from a beach in one direction and a boat park with a slipway in the other, we put a rescue boat by the beach who log numbers and radio the RO and our watch house team record those coming from the boat park.  

The absolute fundamental rule is to have a point in the course where you can record a running order, either by passing through the line, or at a turning mark.

Always finish on a beat, finish on a run at your peril.

If I am OD I run my iPhone in recording mode with a clip on microphone at the start and finish.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Apr 20 at 7:43am
Any boats missed at the start can always be noted after lap 1. In general, if I have a sign on sheet, I'll only fill in the race timing sheet at the end of lap one anyway, so that the order will stay roughly similar for ease of use at the finish.

I'm not suggesting this for a 100 boat Nationals off Mounts Bay, but for a 10 to 15 boat fleet at Little Snoring SC where you could (and often will, with the rules ignored) push off from the bank with 30 seconds to go and still make the start line.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote RTFM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Apr 20 at 7:42am
Originally posted by zeon

Think we all understand the need for it with large events on open water . But for 90% of us in this country we are sailing on small 100 acre puddles, all launching from the same spot ( unfortunately no sandy beach lol ) and sailing 50 to 100m to the start which is often inline with the starting box/hut. There is just no need for it.
TBH in my class we haven’t even signed on and off after ever race at our nationals for the last few years .


Our club is next to a public hard/slipway, lots of other people just cruising about, and we have just 1 person (RO) in the starting box running the races, so having a clean digital/legible sign on /off is the way to go.. Anyway after lots of chat there is no published app that does this simple job... Wink


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Post Options Post Options   Quote zeon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Apr 20 at 6:15am
Think we all understand the need for it with large events and  on open water . But for 90% of us in this country we are sailing on small 100 acre puddles, all launching from the same spot ( unfortunately no sandy beach lol ) and sailing 50 to 100m to the start which is often inline with the starting box/hut. There is just no need for it.
TBH in my class we haven’t even signed on and off after ever race at our nationals for the last few years .




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Post Options Post Options   Quote Brass Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Apr 20 at 10:21pm
Originally posted by Rupert

A more radical approach, get rid of signing on totally. Have the RO mark down every boat out there to race. In the average club, the race team will know 90% of names, and can check the others.

Couple of problems with that:

  1. doesn't account for boats between the beach and the starting area;  and
  2. shifts whole responsibility onto RO, in what will be a documented way.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote davidyacht Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Apr 20 at 10:02pm
And us.

We tried a computer based signing on system a few years ago, people forgot to do it, then had to sail up to the race box and say they forgot ... just another barrier to entry ... so we scrapped it.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zeon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Apr 20 at 7:18pm
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