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Post Options Post Options   Quote asterix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 10 at 10:03am
well yes that is what I was going to say - sign on and record the PY you are sailing to.  At least at my club they do take great care with who sails to which number.
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So the fleet will be split and anyone with an A rig wont be able to race the people with B's and vice versa at the nationals?

Seems a shame. Or maybe I've misunderstood, but if i bought a big rig boat I'd want the opportunity to be thrashed by all the lightweights. I'd want to be buying in to a fleet of over 100 boats, not 50.

I really do think the 300 model with same number for both rigs works very well and everyone has an opportunity to do well dependant on wind conditions. However having said that most people do use the B's....



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Post Options Post Options   Quote chrisg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 10 at 10:32am
Fair enough, you guys are the ones who bought the boats so i dont want to interfere but i know I'd want to be racing everyone, regardless of which rig I or they were using and wouldnt want the fleet results split....
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Inland sea Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 10 at 10:35am

Mmmm interesting Jimbo... is the 8.4 flater than the 10.2 as well as being smaller?

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Question

Do you have to sail in your weight range. Will class rules stipulate that
<85kg Must use 8.4 or >85kg Must use 10.2?

OR

is 85kg a nominal point and you choose which sail to register for a race
or series with. i.e nothing to stop a 90kg fatboy using the 8.4 for a
season (and praying for big wind) or the other way round.

If so, provided that you registered with a 10.2, can you sail with an 8.4
when the wind gets up? ( Like a 600)

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Post Options Post Options   Quote laser193713 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 10 at 10:45am
Is the kite the same size on both? And what are the reccomended weight ranges for the rigs, I had always just assumed I wanted the big one, I am just touching 80kgs and am 6 foot 2. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ChrisC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 10 at 10:46am
I would much prefer this arrangement - both fleets racing together.
Ultimately it is going to be the only way to truly test if the rig sizes actually
perform differently in the same conditions - plus it will make for much
better big fleet racing.

Personally I doubt that the PY's should be that different (or that way around
!) given that the kites are the same size for both. I would have thought that
in typical marginal conditions a lighter helm is going to be advantaged on
the downwind (where mainsail size is not such a significant factor) being
able to sail a deeper hot angle than the heavier guys - going to be
interesting to see though !

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 10 at 10:56am
At 80kgs, the 8.4 is probably the choice depending on where you sail. Kite
is the same for both 12.5m. Still gives you 20.9m of downwind sail area! I
understand that split of sails is probably more 8.4's at the moment. I don't
think there was a notable difference in performance during testing, hence
the small difference which equates to about 30s over an hours race.

James the 10.2 is also between a laser and a Phantom. On the same sail
package a phantom comes out at something like 10.5m. Epoxy hull....PY of
1043 yeah right
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ChrisC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 10 at 10:57am
Showing my total ignorance (?) are there 2 National Champions in the RS300
(A rig and B rig) ?. Apologies if I should know this !
Not now Kato (you fewl) !

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Post Options Post Options   Quote laser193713 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 10 at 11:02am
I thought there would be more of the big rigs to be honest, my only issue with getting the small rig is that I am much more likely to put on weight than lose it, I dont want to half to pay for another sail and a mast section 6 months down the line.  I have until september to decide so I will keep an eye on my height and weight up until then.  I will also speak to ldc and test sail both rigs if I can.  Perhaps the 8.4 is a better option though as I can imagine 10m of sail swinging across in a gybe in any decent wind would be quite a handful!
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