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    Posted: 07 Jun 05 at 11:38am

i am going to buy a second hand rs 800 and am not quite sure what do look for!!  is there anything that bracks very easyly or little things the wear out easily?  or can anyone just give me some general advice please! 

thanks very much luke

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Look for a boat with plenty of sails, old and new because you'll need a set to get used to the boat and another set once you get your head round things. Remember sails for high performance boats are expensive. Also another simple check to do with all boats is to check the foils line up with each other. When we looked at the 5000 we checked the gunnels because remember they will have had a lot of abuse, just check they are still solid. Turn the hull upside down to check things properly too and check around the back of the dagger board casing just incase foils have been destroyed in their. Lots of people buy new covers, ropes etc to jazz up the boat for sale so don't look at that stuff and concentrate on the expensive stuff- sails, foils, spars, etc. Don't know too much about RS 800s but the stuff I've mentioned can be applied to any boat. Hope that helps and good luck
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cheers mate!!  does it matter how old the hull is? 
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Not too sure, doesn't matter with classes like the 5-tonner or 4000 but I'd ask advice on the 800 site because those guys know their boats inside out. Plus you'll get old boats that haven't been sailed too much where as some of the newer ones on the circuit will have been raced week in week out, its just the luck of the draw. Being one design, in theory age shouldn't matter but as I mentioned before, I don't know 800s but they should be good because they come out of the RMW boat shed. Best buying a local boat where you know what its history is if you can.
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I don't sail 800's but hasn't there been a rules change to fixed spreaders and a change to the mainsheet/twin tillers? Might be something to look for.

Sails are obviously very important but replacing ropes can get pretty expensive too for high quality stuff so remember that.

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RS 800s are generally well made and robust as long as looked after - a couple of issues I'm aware of are:-Masts - the track can rip off - check its still well attached. Battens poke through front of sail check batten pockets.Mast foot area - hull can crack under mast foot check for signs of cracks or worse a bodge repair.

As 49erGBR --- says, check the transom and back of CB case for signs of damage (from running aground at speed with foils down).

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Have a look at the mast. Loads of them have broken around block fittings, gooseneck, spreaders ...

Actually the protection between carbon and aluminum go away and then you get an important oxidation between both elements speed up by salt and water and leads to a fatal brakerage.

Latest proctor masts are better than previous superspars.

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Check the racks too for signs of them coming away from the boat. Don't know the 800 too well but with the 5000, if there was play in the rack fitments, you'd stay weel clear, same with the 49er. Also if you can get a boat with a lot of herzog, that will add to the value of the boat and shows that the owner has probably taken a professional attitude to the boat.

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what is hrzong?   heard it in some adverts but have no clue what it is!!
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Its the 12 plait rope that comes in interesting shades of blue and red usually, used as lot for adjustable trapeze lines and strops as you can do long splices with it that do not creep under load.  Its expensive stuff but is the muts nuts for pretty much anything that does not run through a cleat (and you can get coverd versions for that.  (on the 9ers they use it for halyards with interlocking splices instead of wire and 3-plait - lighter and less stretch). 
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